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policy guard, versus this new foreign policy guard and some led by jon kyl who is not an isolationist, if you will. there is some isolationist views there but it's an interesting divide sitting in the senate. >> it's not even a divide anymore. some aren't part of the caucus anymore. with this issue, part of it is to say that there's skepticism, overall skepticism of the u.n. among some of the republican party, which is probably an understatement. this digs deeper into that deep rooted skepticism of the body in general. >> all right. i want to move to fiscal cliff here. there's a mix of public opinion and public policy here. democrats feel as if they're winning the public opinion war but that isn't going to get them 218 votes. so at what point does winning the public opinion sort of become diminishing returns? >> well, i don't think it comes to diminishing returns. you see consistently that the exit polls show that people -- not just support president obama but support seeing the wealthy pay a little bit more on taxes, half of the electorate said that. everybody should pay a little bit
policy guard, versus this new foreign policy guard and some led by jon kyl who is not an isolationist, if you will. there is some isolationist views there but it's an interesting divide sitting in the senate. >> it's not even a divide anymore. some aren't part of the caucus anymore. with this issue, part of it is to say that there's skepticism, overall skepticism of the u.n. among some of the republican party, which is probably an understatement. this digs deeper into that deep rooted...
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that's a whole foreign policy package, because you have to do the state department, cia, defense, national security, u.n. ambassador depending on what moves he makes. it's a whole puzzle he has to fill out all the pieces. the national security aadviser is the only one that does not require senate confirmation. >> it feels kind of like it, and yachlt when you look at it politically it feels like the yes susan rice and no susan rice for state is the first domino that if you go with her, then maybe john kerry for defense. there's a lot of moving parts, so he has to make the susan rice decision first. all the other decisions frankly will be easier after that one. >> is that decision is related to a lot of other things. it basically is how much of a fight do you want to have right now with senate republicans? >> to not go off the fiscal cliff. >> and whether you can back down after that you have been so aaggressive against you. stay tuned. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online. tamron has as a look at what's next on "news nation." >> great to see you
that's a whole foreign policy package, because you have to do the state department, cia, defense, national security, u.n. ambassador depending on what moves he makes. it's a whole puzzle he has to fill out all the pieces. the national security aadviser is the only one that does not require senate confirmation. >> it feels kind of like it, and yachlt when you look at it politically it feels like the yes susan rice and no susan rice for state is the first domino that if you go with her,...
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ambassador to israel, vice president of foreign policy at brookings, coconvenienter of the forum on u.s./israel relations convening this week. thanks very much. what is the significance of what happened at the u.n.? a step forward, a step back or status quo? >> i guess a step sideways, out of the normal channel for resolving the conflict peacefully, that is through negotiati negotiations, sideways to the united nations. it doesn't move the palestinians forward. it's a significant but symbolic act. and if it produces a kind of punitive, vicious circle in which the israelis now announce more settlement activity, the particularly strategic activity it seems to be, and then the palestinians decide to go to the international criminal court who would charge israel with some crimes and then we'll get into a downward spiral, the congress cuts the funds to the palestinian authority, we could be in very negative territory quite quickly and bear in mind that there's an election coming up in israel in which an outbidding process is likely to occur. already you have lieberman calling for the topplin
ambassador to israel, vice president of foreign policy at brookings, coconvenienter of the forum on u.s./israel relations convening this week. thanks very much. what is the significance of what happened at the u.n.? a step forward, a step back or status quo? >> i guess a step sideways, out of the normal channel for resolving the conflict peacefully, that is through negotiati negotiations, sideways to the united nations. it doesn't move the palestinians forward. it's a significant but...
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however, they do and should speak before news shows to disseminate information about foreign policy to the american people. so to say that she should stay off news shows which are sunday which are informative to the public, yes, there is politics there, is incorrect. the president needs the chief foreign policy spokesperson for his administration and that's the secretary of state and then secondarily it's the u.n. ambassador. so i partially agree with the senator, they should stay out of domestic politics, but not when an issue like this comes up that the american people deserve some kind of an explanation. >> is it fair that she's caught in the cross hairs about what the intelligence was at the time and what was able to be passed along, disseminated to the public within that many days after the attack in benghazi? >> i think there's too much focus on the crosshairs. if the president is going to nominate ambassador rice, it should ob her qualifications. she has terrific qualifications. she's a road scholar, assistant secretary of africa when i was at the u.n. she was in her 30s at the
however, they do and should speak before news shows to disseminate information about foreign policy to the american people. so to say that she should stay off news shows which are sunday which are informative to the public, yes, there is politics there, is incorrect. the president needs the chief foreign policy spokesperson for his administration and that's the secretary of state and then secondarily it's the u.n. ambassador. so i partially agree with the senator, they should stay out of...
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that's a perfect you've writte foreign policy, an article on foreign policy, talking about how the president seizes the initiative back. how does he do it in this case where obviously he believes, susan rice said she believed, that this was actually a step back for peace having this vote for the palestinians? >> well, first of all, that's a question of judgment whether they really believed it or not, but they went along with the lying. and that lying was probably domestically more popular. i don't think it makes that much difference. i think it would have been much smarter as someone did propose, i think, i forget who said that but someone very prominent said he wished both israel and the y united states had voted for it. it would have been far more 0 effective. wouldn't have altered the outcome but it would have given a totally different spin. adopting certain steps on the settlements and then the european allies reacting strongly. i think israel is more isolated today than ever before. not to mention the vote which was, you know, 188 and only eight against it. >> tony blair, we asked tony
that's a perfect you've writte foreign policy, an article on foreign policy, talking about how the president seizes the initiative back. how does he do it in this case where obviously he believes, susan rice said she believed, that this was actually a step back for peace having this vote for the palestinians? >> well, first of all, that's a question of judgment whether they really believed it or not, but they went along with the lying. and that lying was probably domestically more...
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they are the chief foreign policy spokesman for theed a handwriting. to suggest not to go on news shows because that's political is just not part of precedent and it's wrong. i think senator collins is -- i know her. i think she's trying to do the best job she can. but to say not to go on those news shows, that doesn't really jive. >> let me ask you one other thing, governor, about senator collins. she wants susan rice to explain her role in the bombings in africa, tanzania and kenya in 1998. you were the ambassador in 1998. did susan rice have any oversight or any authority at all that dealt with those embassies in kenya and tanzania that she would have to explain? >> no. she is not a homeland security officer. at the time, she was assistant secretary of africa on policy. she was making policy towards sudan, towards kenya, towards south africa. an excellent policymaker but she was not in charge of embassy security. that's diplomatic security and other entities that, unfortunately, we had that tragedy. she wasn't in charge of the buildings in our embas
they are the chief foreign policy spokesman for theed a handwriting. to suggest not to go on news shows because that's political is just not part of precedent and it's wrong. i think senator collins is -- i know her. i think she's trying to do the best job she can. but to say not to go on those news shows, that doesn't really jive. >> let me ask you one other thing, governor, about senator collins. she wants susan rice to explain her role in the bombings in africa, tanzania and kenya in...
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policy. hagel is more of a progressive voice, but i'm not sure that a second-term obama presidency reaches back to another republican defense figure. >> and as to the john kerry/susan rice dilemma that the president faces, he says that the attacks on susan rice won't affect his decision one way or another. it won't force his hand to nominate her, and it won't affect his decision to go with senator kerry, if that's what he chooses to do. is he going to be able to incredibly present his choice as his real first choice under these circumstances? >> well, that's the problem with this town, right? when you have these kind of vicious attacks you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. for cynical operators which i think there are some in the attacks on rice among the republican caucus here, they get a sort of partial short-term victory there because there is a lot of noise. i think at the end of the day this president gets his first choice, secretary of state nominee through regardless of whi
policy. hagel is more of a progressive voice, but i'm not sure that a second-term obama presidency reaches back to another republican defense figure. >> and as to the john kerry/susan rice dilemma that the president faces, he says that the attacks on susan rice won't affect his decision one way or another. it won't force his hand to nominate her, and it won't affect his decision to go with senator kerry, if that's what he chooses to do. is he going to be able to incredibly present his...
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i'll read an excerpt from foreign policy. with the exception of syria she's won every major battle she's fought at u.n., imposes sanctions on north korea, sending a peacekeeping force, and warding off a full-scale war of sudan and south sudan. you're talking about qualifications for secretary of state, that qualifies her more than reading talking points. >> and at the beginning of this she was one of the few administration officials along with hillary clinton who pushed reluctant people inside the white house, including tom donnell lynn to interview in libya, a position senator republicans took at the time. >> human rights is a key issue and done a lot at u.n. with regard to women, disabled people. and i worked with her in the clinton administration. she was, you know, very tenacious. very intelligent woman. very strong willed. i guess one of the things, as a woman i don't like, some of the criticism of her, if this was a man, it -- these would be positive attributes. >> exactly. >> as a woman, well you know she's feisty. >>
i'll read an excerpt from foreign policy. with the exception of syria she's won every major battle she's fought at u.n., imposes sanctions on north korea, sending a peacekeeping force, and warding off a full-scale war of sudan and south sudan. you're talking about qualifications for secretary of state, that qualifies her more than reading talking points. >> and at the beginning of this she was one of the few administration officials along with hillary clinton who pushed reluctant people...
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policy. just as important, the senate has the duty to advise and consent to his decision. if senators see a serious problem with a nominee, they have a right and dao ut to spike and vote that way. someone keeps telling the press that president obama prefers to nominate u.n. ambassador susan rice and as long as that person is not the president and does so under ground rules that praekt his or her identity, we are condemned to this preventative war we're watching in washington. one side attacking while no one outside the gates of the white house know what is the president intends. i take president obama at his official word. he has not decided whose name to send to the senate and with that we go to the first of our two senatorial guests. senator bob corker, republican of tennessee. senator corker, i have laid it out as best i can. you senators have a right and a duty to decide, to advise and consent or not, to a president's nominee. isn't this strange that we're having the debate about the qual
policy. just as important, the senate has the duty to advise and consent to his decision. if senators see a serious problem with a nominee, they have a right and dao ut to spike and vote that way. someone keeps telling the press that president obama prefers to nominate u.n. ambassador susan rice and as long as that person is not the president and does so under ground rules that praekt his or her identity, we are condemned to this preventative war we're watching in washington. one side attacking...
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not to mention what we're about to get to on foreign policy issues which will serve as a backdrop for the remainder of the term. you've got to get this done to get over that hump. you've got to think the president's focused on it which is why i remain optimistic that it may get done december 20th. >> on the sunday talk shows that you're talking about, let's just strip it down. a man in negotiations does not say to another man, you're going to cave. do you say that to another man in negotiations? and you think you're going to get him to cave? >> no, sloulgabsolutely not. >> oh, please, this is all about men. come on. first of all, a woman would never think saying that because they would lactually be much moe reasonable, and something would actually get done. but if you're going to negotiate as men, you're going to have to find a way to strategically make the other side feel whole while not destroying your own ego at the same time. i didn't understand when i watched the treasury secretary saying oh, yeah, they'll cave. that doesn't work between them. it doesn't. >> mika, listening to yo
not to mention what we're about to get to on foreign policy issues which will serve as a backdrop for the remainder of the term. you've got to get this done to get over that hump. you've got to think the president's focused on it which is why i remain optimistic that it may get done december 20th. >> on the sunday talk shows that you're talking about, let's just strip it down. a man in negotiations does not say to another man, you're going to cave. do you say that to another man in...
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and it gets, i think, a broader question, too, about what is the obama foreign policy in a second term? what is the vision for a region that i think could pull him in and occupy a lot of his time? >> what do you make of the ongoing battle over the next secretary of state? hillary clinton finally came out and gave a strong endorsement to susan rice. some people, including maureen dowd, would suggest maybe that took a little longer than was necessary. >> it was striking. it was striking how long it took. and it didn't go unnoticed, obviously. >> she's traveling. >> you see john kerry being embraced by republicans. i think a lot of democrats would also like him to be the next secretary of state. where are we in that fight? we have so many issues that are on the front pages now. i think the president needs to get his person in as soon as possible. >> well, my sense is that secretary clinton weighing in perhaps suggests that the nomination is coming soon. i've talked to people on all sides of this. there's no question that benghazi continues to be litigated. even on the democratic side, the
and it gets, i think, a broader question, too, about what is the obama foreign policy in a second term? what is the vision for a region that i think could pull him in and occupy a lot of his time? >> what do you make of the ongoing battle over the next secretary of state? hillary clinton finally came out and gave a strong endorsement to susan rice. some people, including maureen dowd, would suggest maybe that took a little longer than was necessary. >> it was striking. it was...